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Wednesday, 23 September 2015

The Hales Exclusive Brethren's Outright Ban On Professional Vocations....WHY?

It's rather strange that Bruce D Hales places an outright ban on professional vocations yet he sanctions alliances with the Emergency Services to maintain his Church's charitable status.

The outright ban prevents a PBCC member from becoming a Doctor, Dentist, Nurse, Soldier, Airman, Sailor, the list is endless...

Poor little children in PBCC Ghetto schools are corralled into becoming an Accountant or salesman on the whim of their 'Glorious leader'.



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  1. Is a ban on these professions or really a ban on going outside the cult's influence to a University where the young person will be exposed to a wider range of thought and practice which the cult cannot control?

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    1. Some professions would be banned even if you could enter them without attending university. I don’t have the reference to hand but somewhere I read B.D.H. saying in a meeting that he hoped no one here wanted to be a scientist. I don’t think they would be allowed to become philosophers, theologians, historians, archaeologists, cosmologists, anthropologists, psychologists or Bible scholars either, because a knowledge of any of these disciplines would expose many falsehoods in the Brethren’s worldview and in the pronouncements of their present and past leaders.

      It was not always so. Up until the early 1960s most of the Brethren were more scholarly than the populations in which they lived. The more I think of Brethren’s achievements of the past, the more I realise how far they have fallen.

      Where now are the learned Brentons, the wise and perceptive Tregelles, the brilliant Widdowsons, the heroic and noble Pensons, and a host of other great Brethren reformers, philanthropists, teachers, doctors, nurses, pharmacists, scientists, architects, engineers, musicians, missionaries, historians and linguists? In the brethren self-promotional book, “Faith the Serves” the authors have to scratch around in the archives of a distant past to find achievements they can boast about.

      They remind me of the Islamic world, which was once the great repository and custodian of all the most important learning and knowledge in existence, far ahead of the Western world in their culture and development. They put great value on scholarship, and their scholars kept alive and transmitted to the West the wisdom and writings of the ancients, but as a result of religious fundamentalism they fell into steep decline and are now immersed in ignorance, prejudice, folly, inhumanity and the deprivations that come with it. If you look at the Arab world in its present state, you would never imagine how much we owe them. So it is with the Brethren.

      When your light becomes darkness, how great the darkness!

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    2. You are quite right Ian. What's worse, the pdf shows sign posts pointing to things like Science, but the text simply talks about business, all the time.
      And yes, they're clearly running scared of objective study and observation. It's so very easy to intellectually critique the PBCC from outside with their defective doctrines, archaic practices, and inward looking mindset. What would happen if their own young people were to realise this too? I suspect complete and utter breakdown of the whole cult like system.

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    3. I was disappointed when, not very long ago, PBCC member Peter Trevvett of Lancaster, UK, thought I was opposing this group of Brethren when I drew his attention to the scientific achievements of the Widdowson sisters, Elsie and Eva, and in particular the work of Elsie.

      Here is an extract from a book which gives Dr Eric Glaser's account of how Elsie associated with colleagues and German Exclusive Brethren when she was working in Germany in 1946:


      "In the Spring of 1946 I was in charge of a small medical unit in the Harz Mountains of Germany when I got a message from Divisional Headquarters that two English scientists were in the region. Would I look after them over a weekend? Mac [Professor Robert McCance] and Elsie duly turned up on a Saturday. There was nothing frosty or pompous about them and they were easy guests. Food among the German population was very scarce and army rations were modest, but bread and potatoes were not difficult; so Mac was no problem, and Elsie's frugal needs were met easily enough. The evening went quite well and this encouraged me to say that I had planned a long walk through the Harz Mountains on Sunday, so would they mind if the other doctor in the unit looked after them? Mac immediately responded that he would enjoy a long walk and Elsie said that she would appreciate a quiet day.

      Elsie had a group of friends in Wuppertal, the nature of whom threw an interesting light on Elsie's personality. On Sundays Elsie often disappeared for a while to see some German acquaintances and take them gifts of clothing, soap and other unobtainable items that had been sent to her from England for them. There was little interest in who these acquaintances might be, but as Christmas approached, we were all invited to meet them. They turned out to be a fundamentalist Christian group (much disliked, even persecuted by the Nazis), and quite unlike other Germans we met. Most Germans were obsequious, some still arrogant, many understandably suspicious, and none friendly. These were simple straightforward good people. If I remember right, we enjoyed their simple hospitality and sang carols that were common to England and Germany."

      Pages 170-171 of 'McCance and Widdowson - A Scientific Partnership of 60 Years', published by the British Nutrition Foundation, First Edition 1993.

      (Elsie Widdowson was born in 1906.)

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    4. The late Roger Stott wrote of Elsie Widdowson,
      "It seems to me to be an interesting comment on the Brethren (and I certainly take this to myself) that we had a scientist of world stature in the Cambridge meeting and that almost all of us were completely unaware of the fact. That while we were banging on about ‘separation from the world’ there was this quiet unobtrusive ‘sister’ who was actually changing it for the better and saving thousands of lives (especially of children) all over the world. And saying nothing about it. Almost a parable really."

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  2. I am glad that the Brethren are trying to prepare their young people for employment in ways that go beyond classroom learning. But the OneSchool Career Advantage Program booklet shows that business is the only kind of employment they are being prepared for. The words “business” and “businesses” occur very frequently throughout it, but other kinds of employment are not mentioned at all. I hate to see young people severely restricted in their choice of career.

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    1. I've never been part of any Brethren group. I've worshipped and shared fellowship with people in quite a lot of different mainstream Christian denominations in various parts of the world but I've never come across a mainstream Christian church that prohibits its members, young and old, from pursuing third level university undergraduate and postgraduate degree courses or acquiring professional qualifications. It's not a church's responsibility to limit its members educational opportunities, and the ban placed on brethren young people to prevent them from going away to university or college in order to study freely is immensely damaging to the youngsters concerned and also to the PBCC's public reputation. These Brethren are perceived to be anti learning in width and depth and unreliable in knowledge and understanding.

      I'm still reeling from Bruce D Hales's ministry in Sutton on 9 June this year. I know that former brethren have sometimes recorded that when they left the assembly they were told that they would meet an unfortunate accident or suffer some sort of major health problem as a result of their defection; but I had NEVER expected to read the transcript of a Brethren leader discussing in a fellowship meeting the best way to finish yourself off by poisoning. I almost can't believe Bruce D Hales said those things - but the printed ministry of that meeting is no forgery and a Brethren spokesman has referred to the context of those comments - the circumstance of a troubled young man whose host was looking for suggestions of ways to help him in his vulnerability and torment.

      It's plain that if there had been even a few well educated and professionally trained people in that meeting in Sutton - a mental health practitioner, a doctor, social worker or teacher perhaps - a voice would have been heard from amid the congregation asking Bruce D Hales to desist from discussing ways of committing suicide. The poor educational standards and lack of professional expertise (apart from business, that is) of most of these Exclusive Brethren meant that Bruce D Hales spoke without contradiction and, in doing so, brought shame on himself and his brethren ... and a young man's anguish has been in no way relieved.

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    2. I disagree Joan. It would be 'suicide' for the owner of any voice heard from amid the congregation asking BDH to desist from anything. It's simply not done. Just one of the reasons you shouldn't - in my opinion - be climbing on board with any sort of acceptance of their self-description of 'mainstream church'. This is not a true descriptor of the EB/PBCC. They are a personality cult.

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  3. I've read somewhere that BDH said JSH was without sin from age 12

    Can this be proven in ministry, or is it word of mouth?

    Thomas

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