Thursday, 6 March 2014

The Charity Commission's full Preston Down Trust decision document

For those who have been prevented from viewing the following document it can be viewed at any public library using this link; http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/media/591398/preston_down_trust_full_decision.pdf

Alternatively the CC will post you a copy of the full document if you ask courteously explaining why you are unable to access it.


  1. In the meantime, the BHEB/PBCC still look like a cult to me. Reading from The International Cultic Studies Association website, I'm concerned how many of these statements seem to be true for them.


    Concerted efforts at influence and control lie at the core of cultic groups, programs, and relationships. Many members, former members, and supporters of cults are not fully aware of the extent to which members may have been manipulated, exploited, even abused. The following list of social-structural, social-psychological, and interpersonal behavioral patterns commonly found in cultic environments may be helpful in assessing a particular group or relationship.

    Compare these patterns to the situation you were in (or in which you, a family member, or friend is currently involved). This list may help you determine if there is cause for concern. Bear in mind that this list is not meant to be a “cult scale” or a definitive checklist to determine if a specific group is a cult. This is not so much a diagnostic instrument as it is an analytical tool.

    ‪ The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

    ‪Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

    ‪Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).

    ‪The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

    ‪The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

    ‪The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

    ‪The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).

    ‪The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

    ‪The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

    ‪Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

    ‪The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

    ‪The group is preoccupied with making money.

    ‪Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.

    ‪Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

    ‪The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

  2. This was posted on the Friends Alive website today


    Re: From the Exclusive Brethren (Hales Group)
    Post Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:35 pm

    Well, lots of changes in the brethren system. It looks like separation is on its way out, now brethren are allowed to eat with worldly business associates. Not sure who will monitor this.

    Also, brethren up and down the country (Britain) are having to attend meetings to become familiar with the new CC trust document. They have to sign for the documents as they enter the halls, and return them when leaving. Each document has its own marking which is logged against the brother getting it.

    No phones with cameras are allowed.

    The meeting is because the brethren are having to change some things to please the CC. Like their attitude to separation when people are withdrawn from, also their attitude to ex brethren. The use of the word compassion brought some shock, maybe even fear, my contact said as the person looked around.

    My contact said, "we have suffered for years through being separated from our families and not being allowed to speak to them, now money has changed a 50 year old principle!!"

    More news later.

    End Quote

    If this report is accurate, it sounds like there are some interesting developments beginning !

    Contrast the report quoted above, from inside the PBCC / EB, with the bluster posted elsewhere in this blog that the “Charity Commission had to concede to the PBCC/ EB” and in turn contrast that statement to the actual content and detail of the CC Jan 2014 Report.

  3. Lies, all lies! Just like the Aberdeen transcripts. Clearly a clever fraud executed by bitter persons who resist the Holy Spirit and who contest that God's word is in Holy scripture and it not going to be changed by spineless and corrupt persons who refuse to apply it in their own lives.

    Besides, Mr Halfon would never let this happen to us!

    Leonardon't K Nonanus

    This is partly the "Fudge" Mr O rightly observes and draws attention to.

  4. What is William Shawcross's address?

    He said that people should inform him if they're "unhappy" about the way the PBCC is treating them.

    1. William.shawcross@charitycommission.gsi.gov.uk

    2. If you wish to complain about a charity, you need to do it on-line. Even if you send your complaint by post, you will still be asked to fill in the on-line form, which you can find at

    3. Really? So why did my MP come to my house two weeks ago, listen to my complaints about the PBCC and write to Sam Younger, chief executive of the Charity Commission expressing those complaints?

      I was not told to do it on-line.

      Who's wrong? You, or my MP?

    4. Probably neither. The official route online, and I suspect the MP's route by who you know, not what you know.

  5. This report of special meetings to introduce the new Trust Deeds is the most hopeful sign I have seen so far. It could be the start of a programme of genuine reform, depending, of course, on whether the Brethren take the same meaning out of the Deed as everyone else does, and behave accordingly. In a year’s time it would be great to be able to say mostly positive things about the Hales Brethren.

    There is still cause for unease, of course. We don’t know whether the report is true, and we don’t know how genuine or far-reaching the changes will be. And it is very strange that the Brethren have to surrender their copies of the Trust Deed on leaving, and are not allowed to copy it. Why would that be?

  6. Yes Ian, that bit about surrendering their copies of the Trust Deed is really odd. After all, it's a public document.

    Am I right in understanding that this report is saying that PBCC members are now allowed to eat and drink with employees at their businesses? Will this be extended to include a cup of tea with a non-Brethren neighbour or a shared meal with anyone who has travelled a distance to visit them? I do hope so. It would be lovely if we could begin to experience these Brethren as courteous people again.

    One thing's for sure. Bruce Hales, Garth Christie, Bruce Hazell and the other senior elders are on firm ground if they now begin to teach their followers that it is entirely biblical to offer hospitality to strangers: "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it." (The New Testament book of Hebrews 13:2 - the author of this was surely thinking of Genesis 18:1-15 and Sarah's and Abraham's experience by the oaks of Mamre.)

  7. Regarding HEB members having to surrender their copies of the Trust Deed - all I can think is that BDH and his henchmen don't want the flock to have copies of this ghastly freeing-up 'expose' document in their little hot hands for a second longer than they have to. Just imagine if they could take it home to show wifey and kids, or for the chaps and chapesses at work to pick over and highlight the interesting bits! Or for one of the peeb kids to take a copy into school, present it to their worldly teacher, and ask for a debate on it in Citizenship lessons or something. Lol!

    We must always protect the flock from themselves (or from finding out too much about the corruption inherent in the way their cult... cough, church.... is operated). That's been the modus operandi of Excl Brethren leaders since J H Symington, in my opinion and experience; 40 years of corrupt leadership postulating as Pure Leaders of the Recovery with a direct line to God. And before that they had James Taylor Jr. Words fail me.

  8. Meanwhile to some former members they are still being nasty and vindictive. I have evidence

    1. what are you thinking of Matthew??