Monday, 3 February 2014

To obey Brethren ministry, you virtually have to give up Christianity

From Wikipeebia today;http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=448

A lot of people pontificate confidently about sins and virtues, but their confident, unequivocal opinions don’t seem to be anything more than opinions. During the middle ages, the clergy seemed to be obsessed with sins associated with sex, but the new Pope thinks this has led to the neglect of other aspects of morality.

The authors of Leviticus and Deuteronomy tried to define sins by a set of rules, but some of their rules would now be regarded by just about everyone as morally indefensible. Some of them could be improved by merely inserting the word “not.” Jim Taylor similarly issued hundreds of rules of behaviour and practice, but these did not promote morality: quite the reverse. They promoted harmful, detrimental and arguably criminal practices that the Brethren have just had to renounce in the hope of being recognised as charitable. 

Jesus adopted a very different approach. When he taught about morality, the rules that he taught were very few and very broad. Love God, love your neighbour, love your enemies, do to others as you would have them do to you. Most of his moral teaching was done not by rules but by illustrative examples or thought-provoking parables. The story of the sheep and the goats is all about how you treat people, particularly people in need or people suffering oppression. The story of the Good Samaritan is also about how you treat people, particularly people who belong to a different race or a different religion. The same story is also about how religious rules as followed by the priest and the Levite singularly fail to promote good behaviour. 

Whereas Jesus had little use for rules, Jim Taylor churned out hundreds of them.
Whereas Jesus opposed religious oppression, Jim Taylor built a whole system of religious oppression, which was made even worse by his successors.
Whereas Jesus encouraged a positive attitude to a rival religion and race, Jim Taylor used abusive language about other religions, denominations and some other races.
Whereas Jesus (and Paul too) forbade divorce for minor things like religious differences, Jim Taylor promoted it and insisted on it. 
Whereas Jesus said, “Give gratuitously,” and “To him that asks of thee, give,” Jim Taylor consistently discouraged giving to charity. 
Whereas Jesus said “Love your enemies,” Jim Taylor said “Sue the bastards!”

To obey Brethren ministry, you virtually have to give up Christianity.


  1. To bring it to the simplest of examples: If you're a Hales EB, you are not allowed to even invite a needy neighbour into your kitchen to share a cuppa and a chat. You are not allowed to open your home to offer a needy nonEB person a bed for the night. Jesus wept.

    1. . . . which means the Brethren have not only been forbidden to follow Jesus’ ministry: they have also been forbidden to follow Paul’s ministry about offering hospitality to strangers.

  2. Quote
    "My brother, I am a constant reader of my Bible, and I soon found that what I was taught to believe (by Darby's doctrine) did not always agree with what my Bible said. I came to see that I must either part company with John Darby, or my precious Bible, and I chose to cling to my Bible and part from Mr. Darby." – (George Müeller, a contemporary and one time supporter of Darby quoted by Robert Cameron, Scriptural Truth About the Lord's Return, pp.146-7.)
    End Quote

    I think the above quote is in particular reference to the supposed “secret rapture doctrine”, but it does demonstrate a rather unsavoury element to Brethrenism which just got worse as the years went on.

    Deference to what “a man says” in his particular agenda driven interpretation of Gods Word over what the Word of God actually says in the Scriptures got steadily worse in the Exclusive Brethren branch of Brethrenism

    Its that foundation of deference to what “a man says”, that led to the Exclusive Brethren obeying rules introduced by JT Senior, JT Junior, Symington, Hales, etc, even when those rules could be denounced by Gods Word in the Scriptures.